. Sorry, but
this image did not show on my computer.

One hypothesied large fragment impact point in lower
Michigan is shown. There should be another one not too
far distant."

There is one major problem with the Rainwater Basins,
as they are called, being associated with a terminal
Pleistocene impact. The oval basins that are exhibited
by the modern land surface are palimpsest landforms
created by a blanket of Middle, Late, and Holocene loesses
and paleosols draped evenly over the original Rainwater
Basins, which are developed in fluvial sediments. These
sediments are at least, Illinoian in age, Marine Isotope
Stage 6, approximately 130,000 to 196,000 BP old as a
Late Illinoian Sangamon Soil is developed in them. it
would be interesting to know the stratigraphic
relationship of the Late Illinoian Sangamon Soil to
these original basins as it would further constrain
their age.

Direct studies of these basins from cores and gully walls,
reveal that the original basins are buried by undisturbed
loess, which consists of an intact sequence, from bottom
to top, of Middle Wisconsin Gilman Canyon Formation,
Late Wisconsin Peoria Loess, Brady Soil, Holocene Bignell
Loess, and other interbedded and associated paleosols
(Zanner and Kuzila 2001, Zanner et al. 2007). The fact
that the original basins are blanketed by loess of the
Gilman Canyon Formation clearly demonstrates that the
original Rainwater Basins are greater than 30,000 to 40,000
years TL and C14 (Johnson et al. 2008; Wiley 2009). It is
quite obvious that the Rainwater Basins are far too old to
be associated with any hypothetical Younger Dryas event.
The presence of an intact and undisturbed blanket of Late
Wisconsin Peoria Loess, Middle Wisconsin loess of the
Gilman Canyon Formation, and associated paleosols
covering the original Rainwater Basins makes any
association between the them and the Younger Dryas a
complete and utter physical impossibility as extraterrestrial
impacts cannot create craters tens of thousands of years
before they happen.

Go look at:

Johnson, W. C., Willey, K. L., Mason, J. A., and May, D. W.,
2007, Stratigraphy and environmental reconstruction at
the Middle Wisconsinan Gilman Canyon Formation type
locality, Buzzard's Roost, southwestern Nebraska, U.S.A.
Quaternary Research. vol. 67, pp. 474-486.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.yqres.2007.01.011

Wiley, K. L., 2009, Environmental and Pedogenic Change
in the Central Great Plains from the Middle Wisconsinan
to the Present. Unpublished PhD. dissertation, Department
of Geography, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas.
http://hdl.handle.net/1808/5590

Zanner, C. W., and M. S. Kuzila, 2001, Nebraska's Carolina
bays. Geological Society of America Abstracts with Programs,
v. 33, no. 6, pp. 438.

Zanner, C. W., W. Dort, Jr., and S. R. Bozarth, 2007,
Holocene Bognell Loess Chronology. Stratigraphy and
paleoenvironemntal reconstructions from within a loess
table, Southwestern, Nebraska. Geological Society of
America Abstracts with Programs, v. 39, no. 3, pp. 73.

Yours,

Paul H.

Monday, 5 April 2010

An embarrassment to us all (but mostly me)! Hi

An embarrassment to us all (but mostly me)!Hi

Paul H. oxytropidoceras at cox.net
Mon Apr 5 14:55:07 EDT 2010

Chris Peterson wrote:

“This nutjob posts on various astronomy forums.”

Yes, Ed Conrad is a nutjob. Unfortunately, there is nothing a
person can do about him, except ignore him. below is a
web page that discusses his claims in detail.

Carboniferous human bones -- an evaluation
http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/carbbones.html

Ed also claims that the folded Carboniferous strata, from
which his siderite concretions come, are part of an impact
crater. An excerpt from the Geologic Map of Pennsylvania, 1980,
compiled by Berg et al. (1980) of the area can be found at:

http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/t_origins/carbbones/shenandoah.jpg

Chonosuke Okamura and Silurian Miniman

There was a Japanese paleontologist, who also went off
the deep end. He described from petrographic thin sections
what he though were miniature millimeter-sized remains
of various modern animals and fossil humans from Silurian
limestone. He published a couple of formal monographs
about his “discoveries.” In his thin sections, he also found
dragons, horrific denizens of the mini-world of Mount
Nagaiwa. and the “head of a miniman in the alimentary
canal of a dragon.”

For more information, go see:

1. Spamer, E. E., 1995, Chonosuke Okamura, Visionary,
Journal of Improbable Research. vol. 1, no. 4.

http://improbable.com/news/2000/dec2000/japan-archeo-2000-12.html
http://improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume1/v1i4/v1i4.html
http://improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume1/v1i4/v1i4-toc.html

2. Abrahams, M., 2004, Tiny tall tales (Marc Abrahams
uncovers the minute, but astonishing, evidence of our
fossilized past.) The Guardian, March 16, 2004

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/mar/16/highereducation.research

3. Chonosuke Okamura
http://www.palaeos.org/Chonosuke_Okamura

Some of the papers about Miniman are:

Okamura, Chonosuke, 1982, Period of the Far Eastern
minicreatures. Original Report of the Okamura Fossil
Laboratory. no. 14, pp. 165-346. Okamura Fossil
Laboratory. Nagoya, Japan.

Okamura-Chonosuke, 1987, New facts; Homo and all
Vertebrata were born simultaneously in the former Paleozoic
in Japan. Original Report of the Okamura Fossil Laboratory.
no. 15, pp. 355-573. Okamura Fossil Laboratory. Nagoya, Japan.

Yours,

Paul H.

Thursday, 13 September 2007

Frank Hibben

Paul bristolia at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 12 15:24:19 EDT 2007

Grondine wrote:

We've all been treated to Paul's version of Hibben's life. Here's another one:
http://www.adamsguns.com/hibben.htm

It scarcely looks like the same man.

First, it is revealing that this obituary is deafening in its
silence about his Sandia Cave and other Paleo-Indian
research. Like many obituaries, it can presents a
sanitized version of a person’s life where unpleasant
controversies are simply ignored as to avoid speaking
unkindly of the deceased.

Finally, if Mr. Grondine reads what other people have
written about Dr. Hibben, he will find that he is quite
wrong about it being my “version” of Dr. Hibben as I
am simplying reporting what other people have
written about him. For example, go see:

1. Preston, Douglas, 1995, The mystery of Sandia
Cave. The New Yorker. vol. 71, pp. 66-72 (June 12, 1995)

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1995/06/12/1995_06_12_066_TNY_CARDS_000370188

2. News: History, Santa Fe / NM, Columns Trail dust,
09/16/2006 - Sandia Cave significance mired in
controversy" at;

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/49330.html

Regardless of whether Sandia Cave was a hoax or not,
which is still an open question, it was so badly excavated
and documented that the only people, who regard his work
there and his Sandia Culture as having any validity are
fringe archaeologists such the Hindu creationist, Dr.
Micheal Cremo.

Best Regards,

Paul H.

Thursday, 8 March 2018

Ed - Let's Take This Discussion Off-list 08MAR2018

Saturday, 5 June 2010

Rainwater Basins, Loess, and An Imaginary Younger Dryas Connection

Rainwater Basins, Loess, and An Imaginary Younger Dryas Connection

Monday, 5 April 2010